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Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by ParisLove2(f): 5:35am On Oct 28, 2012
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, wrote extensively on Islamic Jurisprudence. A two-volume book, which was published originally in Arabic, was called ‘Tahrir al Wasilah’. Translated into Farsi, the book is called “Tahrirolvasyleh.” (read entire text here.) Khomeini also had another treatise on Islamic rules for living, called in English, “The Little Green Book.” (see entire text here.)
It is useful to understand what an esteemed Islamic leader such as the Ayatollah teaches his followers. Here are some excerpts from “Tahrirolvasyleh” which Muslims probably don’t want you to know about Islam:
A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]
A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm.He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, but selling the meat to a neighbouring village is reasonable.
If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure and even their milkmay no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned.
Wine and all intoxicating beverages are impure, but opium and hashish are not.
If a man sodomises the son, brother, or father of his wife after their marriage, the marriage remains valid.
During sexual intercourse, if the joystick enters a woman’s vagina or a man’s anus, fully or only as far as the circumcision ring, both partners become impure, even if they have not reached puberty; they must consequently perform ablutions.
A woman who has contracted a continuing marriage does not have the right to go out of the house without her husband’s permission; she must remain at his disposal for the fulfilment of any one of his desires, and may not refuse herself to him except for a religiously valid reason. If she is totally submissive to him, the husband must provide her with her food, clothing, and lodging, whether or not he has the means to do so. A woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to bepaid damages if she is repudiated.
It is not illegal for an adult male to ‘thigh’ or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his joystick between her thighs, and to kiss her. ["The Little Green Book"]
Paedophilia legal in Iran
In June, 2002 Iranian authorities approved a law raising the age at which girls can marry without parental consent from 9 to 13. The elected legislature actually passed the bill in 2000, but the “Guardian Council”, a 12-man body of conservative clerics, vetoed it as contradicting Islamic Sharia law. Iran’s clericalestablishment insists that the marriage of young girls is a means to combat immorality. The Expediency Council, which arbitrates between the elected parliament and the theocratic Guardian Council, timidly passed the measure. The law however does not change the age at which children can get married (nine for girls and 14 for boys), but says that girls below the age of 13 and boys younger than 15 need their parents’ permission and the approval of a “Righteous Court.” Reformists state that the new law does not protect children, since most of those who marry at such a young age do so by force.
A religious decree by Khomeini ordered that girl prisoners who are virgins must be raped before execution, to prevent them from entering heaven. A Guard conducts the rape the night before execution. The next day, a marriage certificate is issued by a mullah, who sends it to the girl’s family, along with a box of chocolates as a wedding gift.
It is quite common in Iran for older men to marry children, as long as they pay the appropriate bride-price to the girl’s family. This basically means that a father can sell his daughter to whomever he wants, whilst the mad mullahs see this as a means of maintaining purity. We prefer to call this child prostitution and rape, especially given that Iran’s clerics approve of the ‘tradition’ of ‘temporary marriage’ (Mut’a) , which can last less than 24 hours and may be repeated as many times as desired. This form of exploitation is widespread and legitimises sexwith young children. The man may even visit his temporary wife every weekend at her father’s house, for about $10 per visit.
Khomeini on prostitution and Mut’a (temporary marriage)
“It is permissible to do Mut’a with an adulteress, but with aversion, particularly if she is a well-known prostitute. If Mut’a is done with her, she should be told to give-up her profession.”
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by maclatunji: 6:34am On Oct 28, 2012
^OP, your point is? Last time I checked, following Imam Khomeini's books isn't one of the pillars of Islam. #LOL.

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Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by LagosShia: 8:47am On Oct 28, 2012
Paris-Love:
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, wrote extensively on Islamic Jurisprudence. A two-volume book, which was published originally in Arabic, was called ‘Tahrir al Wasilah’. Translated into Farsi, the book is called “Tahrirolvasyleh.” (read entire text here.) Khomeini also had another treatise on Islamic rules for living, called in English, “The Little Green Book.” (see entire text here.)
It is useful to understand what an esteemed Islamic leader such as the Ayatollah teaches his followers. Here are some excerpts from “Tahrirolvasyleh” which Muslims probably don’t want you to know about Islam:
A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]
A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm.He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, but selling the meat to a neighbouring village is reasonable.
If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure and even their milkmay no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned.
Wine and all intoxicating beverages are impure, but opium and hashish are not.
If a man sodomises the son, brother, or father of his wife after their marriage, the marriage remains valid.
During sexual intercourse, if the joystick enters a woman’s vagina or a man’s anus, fully or only as far as the circumcision ring, both partners become impure, even if they have not reached puberty; they must consequently perform ablutions.
A woman who has contracted a continuing marriage does not have the right to go out of the house without her husband’s permission; she must remain at his disposal for the fulfilment of any one of his desires, and may not refuse herself to him except for a religiously valid reason. If she is totally submissive to him, the husband must provide her with her food, clothing, and lodging, whether or not he has the means to do so. A woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to bepaid damages if she is repudiated.
It is not illegal for an adult male to ‘thigh’ or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his joystick between her thighs, and to kiss her. ["The Little Green Book"]
Paedophilia legal in Iran
In June, 2002 Iranian authorities approved a law raising the age at which girls can marry without parental consent from 9 to 13. The elected legislature actually passed the bill in 2000, but the “Guardian Council”, a 12-man body of conservative clerics, vetoed it as contradicting Islamic Sharia law. Iran’s clericalestablishment insists that the marriage of young girls is a means to combat immorality. The Expediency Council, which arbitrates between the elected parliament and the theocratic Guardian Council, timidly passed the measure. The law however does not change the age at which children can get married (nine for girls and 14 for boys), but says that girls below the age of 13 and boys younger than 15 need their parents’ permission and the approval of a “Righteous Court.” Reformists state that the new law does not protect children, since most of those who marry at such a young age do so by force.
A religious decree by Khomeini ordered that girl prisoners who are virgins must be raped before execution, to prevent them from entering heaven. A Guard conducts the rape the night before execution. The next day, a marriage certificate is issued by a mullah, who sends it to the girl’s family, along with a box of chocolates as a wedding gift.
It is quite common in Iran for older men to marry children, as long as they pay the appropriate bride-price to the girl’s family. This basically means that a father can sell his daughter to whomever he wants, whilst the mad mullahs see this as a means of maintaining purity. We prefer to call this child prostitution and rape, especially given that Iran’s clerics approve of the ‘tradition’ of ‘temporary marriage’ (Mut’a) , which can last less than 24 hours and may be repeated as many times as desired. This form of exploitation is widespread and legitimises sexwith young children. The man may even visit his temporary wife every weekend at her father’s house, for about $10 per visit.
Khomeini on prostitution and Mut’a (temporary marriage)
“It is permissible to do Mut’a with an adulteress, but with aversion, particularly if she is a well-known prostitute. If Mut’a is done with her, she should be told to give-up her profession.”

The above are either deliberate forgeries or deliberate mistranslation as previously proven.for instance,Tahrilol Wasila has no fourth volume,yet you find obscene claims from this so called 4th volume.this is a deliberate fabricated claim non-muslims should be greatly ashamed of.they should also use it to reflect upon their inner selves and their hate for Islam.

This topic isn't new.even before I became a member on nairaland,the non-muslims were using it to provoke muslims and someone muslim opened this thread to refute:

http://www.nairaland.com/293710/complete-tahrirolvasyleh

Moreover,there is the part in the two volumes for instance that are deliberately mistranslated.someone asked Ayatollah Khomeini on what should be done to a sodomized animal.the islam haters have gone further to mistranslate the part to appear as if the Ayatollah is actually promoting bestiality when in fact he's only tackling a prevailing problem that needs a solution.ironic enough,in the same book Ayatollah Khomeini stated the punishment to be administered on someone who commits bestiality!

These are answers I gave from a previous thread:

LagosShia:
what you have copied attributed to Ayatollah Khomeini (may Allah be pleased with him) is a deliberate forgery and misinterpretation of his fatwa.in the same book you are quoting from Ayatollah Khomeini forbade bestiality and ruled the punishment for someone who commits it.it is only a waste of time to talk with shameless people of your kind.you can see how your kind of people were exposed to be very irritating and disgusting in lying.this forgery attributed to Ayatollah Khomeini was discussed in a Shia forum :

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234969511-beastiality-halal/

LagosShia:
another forgery!!! and you still shamelessly quote these forgeries!!!

the fatwa goes thus in reply to a question from a questioner who asked what to do if a child is abused.the fatwa does not say men can abuse children:

"if a man have intimate pleasure with a child,and penetrates a child and the child is harmed,then he should be responsible for her sustenance all her life.this girl,however would not count as one of his four permanent wives.the man would not be eligible to marry the girl's sister".

the above is aside the punishment of flogging the man would undergo!!!

now compare with this:

Death to the Ra.pe Victim   (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
"If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife".

RA.PE A GIRL AND GET A WIFE!!!:
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
28If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and Desecrates her and they are discovered, 29he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver.c He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by ParisLove2(f): 7:09pm On Oct 28, 2012
LagosShia:

The above are either deliberate forgeries or deliberate mistranslation as previously proven.for instance,Tahrilol Wasila has no fourth volume,yet you find obscene claims from this so called 4th volume.this is a deliberate fabricated claim non-muslims should be greatly ashamed of.they should also use it to reflect upon their inner selves and their hate for Islam.

This topic isn't new.even before I became a member on nairaland,the non-muslims were using it to provoke muslims and someone muslim opened this thread to refute:

http://www.nairaland.com/293710/complete-tahrirolvasyleh

Moreover,there is the part in the two volumes for instance that are deliberately mistranslated.someone asked Ayatollah Khomeini on what should be done to a sodomized animal.the islam haters have gone further to mistranslate the part to appear as if the Ayatollah is actually promoting bestiality when in fact he's only tackling a prevailing problem that needs a solution.ironic enough,in the same book Ayatollah Khomeini stated the punishment to be administered on someone who commits bestiality!

These are answers I gave from a previous thread:



Yea i read your answer and went to through your links. Your shia chat link didn't say much just talk about bestiality. Here what they said:
I would guess this is the actual part they've ripped and mangled out of its context in Tahrir. Again, rough translation:
مسألة 22 :
مما يوجب حرمة الحيوان المحلل بالاصل أن يطأه الانسان قبلا أو دبرا و إن لم ينزل ، صغيرا كان الواطئ أو كبيرا ، عالما كان أو جاهلا ، مختارا كان أو مكرها ، فحلا كان الموطوء أو أنثى ، فيحرم بذلك لحمه و لحم نسله المتجدد بعد الوطئ على الاقوى فى نسل الانثى و على الاحوط فى نسل الذكر ، و كذا لبنهما و صوفهما و شعرهما ، و الظاهر أن الحكم مختص بالبهيمة و لا يجري فى وطء سائر الحيوانات لا فيها و لا فى نسلها .
Issue 22 – Of that which makes a halal origin animal haram is that a human being has sexual intercoursewith it, frontally or in back, even if he does not Erupt, whether the doer of the sexual act is a minor or a mature person, knowing or ignorant, choosing (to do it) or compelled, whether the (animal ) that is having sexual intercourse done to itis a steed (male) or female, then by that its meat and the meat of it offspring reborn (?) after the intercourse upon the strongest (view) regarding theoffspring of the female and upon the most precautious with regards to the offspring of the male. Likewise is their milk, their wool, and their hair. And what is apparent is that the ruling is specific to the beast (bahima) and does not apply tointercourse with the rest of the animals, not in it and not in its offspring.
مسألة 23 :
الحيوان الموطوء إن كان مما يراد أكله كالشاة و البقرة و الناقة يجب أن يذبح ثم يحرق و يغرم الواطئ قيمته لمالكه إن كان غير المالك ، و إن كان مما يراد ظهره حملا أو ركوبا و ليس يعتاد أكله كالحمار و البغل و الفرس أخرج من المحل الذي فعل به إلى بلد آخر فيباع فيه ، فيعطى ثمنه للواطئ ، و يغرم قيمته إن كان غير المالك .
Issue 23 – The animal which has had sexual intercourse done upon it, if it of (a type) that one wants to eat, like a sheep, and a cow, and a she-camel, then it is wajib to slaughter it then burn it, and the doer of the sexual act is fined its value toits owner if he was not the owner. And if it is of (a type) that one wants to (use) its back to carry (i.e. a beast of burden) or to ride, and its eating is not customary, like the donkey and the mule and the horse, it is taken out of spot in which it was done to another balad (country?) and sold in it. So its price is given for (? Unsure) the doer of the sexual act and he is fined its value if he was not the owner

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234969511-beastiality-halal/
Hahaha this funny ain't it so basically If you shag your neighbor's sheep, all you gotta do is write him a check. Lol
Also in the other i found something rather strange, here it is
Problem # 7 It is permissible for a person whohas touched the dead to enter the mosques and holyshrines or staying in them, or reading the Quranic Chapters containing Sajdah and if she is a woman, it is permissible to have intercourse with her, so that touching the dead is like the Minor Pollution (urination, etc.), except that touching the dead makes it obligatory to perform the ritual bath for offering the prayers or the like. http://www.al-shia.org/html/eng/books/fiqh&usool/islamic-laws/tahrir/07.html#link7Problem
Correct me if am wrong is the imam saying it's ok to have sêx with a dead woman? Wow.
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by LagosShia: 8:02pm On Oct 28, 2012
^
No he's not saying it is permissible to have sex with a dead woman.he's saying that if it is a woman who has touched a dead body,you can have sex with the woman even if the woman didn't do ghusl (ritual bath).

For God's sake even such basic things you still misinterpret.then how dare you criticize what you don't know?

Take note and don't forget that in the same book you're tampering with,there is punishment stated for someone who commits bestiality.

Paris-Love:
Yea i read your answer and went to through your links. Your shia chat link didn't say much just talk about bestiality. Here what they said:
I would guess this is the actual part they've ripped and mangled out of its context in Tahrir. Again, rough translation:
مسألة 22 :
مما يوجب حرمة الحيوان المحلل بالاصل أن يطأه الانسان قبلا أو دبرا و إن لم ينزل ، صغيرا كان الواطئ أو كبيرا ، عالما كان أو جاهلا ، مختارا كان أو مكرها ، فحلا كان الموطوء أو أنثى ، فيحرم بذلك لحمه و لحم نسله المتجدد بعد الوطئ على الاقوى فى نسل الانثى و على الاحوط فى نسل الذكر ، و كذا لبنهما و صوفهما و شعرهما ، و الظاهر أن الحكم مختص بالبهيمة و لا يجري فى وطء سائر الحيوانات لا فيها و لا فى نسلها .
Issue 22 – Of that which makes a halal origin animal haram is that a human being has sexual intercoursewith it, frontally or in back, even if he does not Erupt, whether the doer of the sexual act is a minor or a mature person, knowing or ignorant, choosing (to do it) or compelled, whether the (animal ) that is having sexual intercourse done to itis a steed (male) or female, then by that its meat and the meat of it offspring reborn (?) after the intercourse upon the strongest (view) regarding theoffspring of the female and upon the most precautious with regards to the offspring of the male. Likewise is their milk, their wool, and their hair. And what is apparent is that the ruling is specific to the beast (bahima) and does not apply tointercourse with the rest of the animals, not in it and not in its offspring.
مسألة 23 :
الحيوان الموطوء إن كان مما يراد أكله كالشاة و البقرة و الناقة يجب أن يذبح ثم يحرق و يغرم الواطئ قيمته لمالكه إن كان غير المالك ، و إن كان مما يراد ظهره حملا أو ركوبا و ليس يعتاد أكله كالحمار و البغل و الفرس أخرج من المحل الذي فعل به إلى بلد آخر فيباع فيه ، فيعطى ثمنه للواطئ ، و يغرم قيمته إن كان غير المالك .
Issue 23 – The animal which has had sexual intercourse done upon it, if it of (a type) that one wants to eat, like a sheep, and a cow, and a she-camel, then it is wajib to slaughter it then burn it, and the doer of the sexual act is fined its value toits owner if he was not the owner. And if it is of (a type) that one wants to (use) its back to carry (i.e. a beast of burden) or to ride, and its eating is not customary, like the donkey and the mule and the horse, it is taken out of spot in which it was done to another balad (country?) and sold in it. So its price is given for (? Unsure) the doer of the sexual act and he is fined its value if he was not the owner

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234969511-beastiality-halal/
Hahaha this funny ain't it so basically If you shag your neighbor's sheep, all you gotta do is write him a check. Lol
Also in the other i found something rather strange, here it is
Problem # 7 It is permissible for a person whohas touched the dead to enter the mosques and holyshrines or staying in them, or reading the Quranic Chapters containing Sajdah and if she is a woman, it is permissible to have intercourse with her, so that touching the dead is like the Minor Pollution (urination, etc.), except that touching the dead makes it obligatory to perform the ritual bath for offering the prayers or the like. http://www.al-shia.org/html/eng/books/fiqh&usool/islamic-laws/tahrir/07.html#link7Problem
Correct me if am wrong is the imam saying it's ok to have sêx with a dead woman? Wow.
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by fellis(f): 3:19pm On Oct 29, 2012
So many horrible claims on this thread. I really hope they are false. I just have one question LagosShia, was 'thighing' actually prescribed by ayatollah khomeini? Was it? Cos I have come across that claim before and it seemed to be true. Also, was the râpe of virgin prisoners also prescribed by him?

Paris-Love:
It is not illegal for an adult male to ‘thigh’ or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his joystick between her thighs, and to kiss her. ["The Little Green Book"]
A religious decree by Khomeini ordered that girl prisoners who are virgins must be raped before execution, to prevent them from entering heaven. A Guard conducts the rape the night before execution. The next day, a marriage certificate is issued by a mullah, who sends it to the girl’s family, along with a box of chocolates as a wedding gift.[/b]
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by LagosShia: 5:26pm On Oct 29, 2012
fellis:

So many horrible claims on this thread. I really hope they are false. I just have one question LagosShia, was 'thighing' actually prescribed by ayatollah khomeini? Was it? Cos I have come across that claim before and it seemed to be true. Also, was the râpe of virgin prisoners also prescribed by him?



Madam,
Whenever a claim is made,ask for evidence.ask those who make the claim to show where it is written with reference.I've not come across what you're saying.as you can see,all of the claims that are made are outright lies built on either fabrication or deliberate mistanslation.

I would advice you re-read my responses in this thread.anti-islam fanatics have made these claims to attack islam.unfortunate,the dumb wahhabis too have repeated these claims to attack the Shia.the first thing you need to check is if the statement attributed to Ayatollah Khomeini is found in the so called 4th volume of Tahrilol Wasila,then it is definitely false because there's no 4th volume.
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by andromida(f): 10:17am On Oct 30, 2012
Disgusting,wicked,EVIL.

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Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by Sunniftw: 8:08pm On Oct 06, 2013
Sorry, all of this is false and incorrect...Read the Hadith and Qur'an #AhlaSunnahWalJamah cheesy grin
اتقوا الله

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At September 9, 2015 at 11:51 AM , Blogger Unknown said...

Shiti fiqah is highly divided into Akbari Usuli. Like sunni can any one comes on Rasul, like shia can any one come on infidel Imam. Its difference on are collected all your solutions from Rasul as sunni, and Imam as shai, If not then Ayatullah mujtahid fakih in shia as Usuli And Mufti mujtahid fakih in sun I as Mujtahidi usuli. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhbari https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuli http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/234974534-differences-between-akbari-and-usuli/ on Nikah is bond of life, its happen between human, nikah doesn't happen with animal, sex comes in life, but sex doesn't make nikah, sex happens with child or animal, which concerns Sodomy / sexual trangession. ( Ayytullahs views ).

 
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At September 9, 2015 at 8:20 PM , Blogger Unknown said...

About dogs.
Dog is a very human loving and domestic Gatekeeper.
If we think differently, dog can be a good friend of us.
People are in every work get lonely or live alone, in such dog is a good living company in houses. A diff ender of being theft, rubbing, annoying, teasing, blackmailing, chaos threatening.
In today's clumsy world a dog be behave like a pious human.
Where human become ferocious animal.

We heard of Caver sleeping people got a talking dog, with their company.
We heard of importance of domestic dog living with people. Such if a living dog remain hungry he will be responsible for that as Amir in here and life after.

By the way as dog understands human behavior and feeling, we can understood dogs move and impressions, and barks too, dog is also protector of hipmotic people , tromatic as well , and prevents paranormality of human mind by its high ghost shin presence sense, and aware.

 

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